the fiba americas concluded a month ago while the european version just finished a couple of weeks ago thereby completing the leading cast for the favorites to get 2008 olympic gold for basketball.
like i said in a prior blog posting, i do like sports (better yet, WE do like sports as selle has learned to appreciate it π). basketball may not be my favorite sport but i still am fascinated by it. international basketball was even made more interesting when professional players were allowed to participate back in the 1992 barcelona olympics.
historically, usa has dominated olympic basketball. their 62-0 record though was snapped in the 1972 olympic finals against soviet union, which still remains one of the most controversial moments in olympic history. usa though regained the gold in the following olympics and continued their dominance until 1988 (except in 1980 wherein usa did not participate) where, finally, the american college stars had problems with their more experienced opponents and consequently only took bronze. this probably was the reason why usa basketball lobbied for the inclusion of professional players in olympic tournaments. they got their wish and in 1992… the dream team was born.
in 1992, usa proved that there is still a huge gap between them and the rest of the world when it comes to basketball. successive trashings of the opposition in the following world championships and olympics even cemented this claim. it was this same dominance which will prove to be the reason for their gradual downfall. top players started losing that desire to play for their country stating that there is nothing more to prove. even the organizers started treating international basketball more like an exhibition and not a serious competition. all these culminated in successive “failures” in 2002 world championships, 2004 olympics and 2006 world championships. note that for team usa, anything less than gold is considered a failure… although usa historically didn’t take the fiba world championships seriously.
being proud people, team usa had enough and have since employed a different approach to international competition. their goal was to get the gold back in 2008.
but before that, they had to qualify for the olympics at the fiba americas.
did they qualify? not only did they qualify… they obliterated the competition. it was sight to behold with each game being practically over by the 2nd (sometimes 3rd) quarter and, yes, at times, it was like watching the dream team all over again.
but even with such dominance, skeptics still abound stating that their opponents did not field their best players (most notably argentina) hence tainting usa’s victory. if the same logic is used, usa also didn’t field their best players in recent tournaments so does that mean argentina and spain’s victories are illegitimate also? i personally think this kind of logic is skewed but never mind the critics and let’s just look at what team usa’s chances are for 2008.
i say their chances are good… really, really good.
why so? two things:
- their mentality. these guys are angry and they play with something to prove. they’re intense on both sides of the court… and they never let up.
- their athleticism. hands down, usa has the most athletic players in the world and they put it in good use. they run, run and run a lot. they pressure the ball which leads to turnovers… and they run even more.
but just to be really, really sure… i think (even my wife observed this), team usa needs to have a few personnel changes. generally speaking, they need:
- a more suitable backup point guard. whenever jason kidd sits down, team usa slows down. whenever team usa slows down, they do not play to their strength which gives their more disciplined opponents some semblance of a chance.
- another dominating big man. only dwight howard can be considered a wide body in the current lineup and nobody else. they need another one when they matchup with those physical european teams. amare can play center but he’s better suited at power forward or play him together with another rebounding monster. it would be nice if they team-up chandler and amare both at the same time but i just do not see the coaching staff doing it.
so who stays? who goes?
- jason kidd definitely stays. he ignites the fastbreak. finds the open man. he is the key to this team.
- dwight howard is a certainty also. to ignite the fastbreak, a team needs to control the boards. howard is a monster at collaring rebounds.
- lebron james, carmelo anthony, kobe bryant stays by default. they’re versatile and explosive at the offensive end. though i think they can live without kobe (note: i don’t like him π), i don’t see usa basketball taking him out of the team. he does play sticky defense… i’ll give him that.
- amare stoudamire stays also. he is the only big man on the current roster with low-post moves (i’m not counting carmelo because he’s really not a big man).
- michael redd is definitely in. this team needs a consistent outside threat like him. i’ll take michael redd over kobe any day. (did i mention already that i do not like kobe? π)
- chauncey billups & deron williams. one of them, if not both, will go. they just hog the ball too much slowing down the potent quick-attack offense. plus chauncey takes too many shots. personally, i say chauncey is out and deron has a 50-50 chance to return.
- mike miller & teyshaun prince. both are in the bubble. miller’s shooting performance was just off during the tournament while prince may be too thin at power forward against bigger teams. i think only one (or maybe none) of them stays… not both.
- tyson chandler. another one in the bubble. he rebounds a lot and blocks a lot of shots, all that is needed from a big man on this team. the only knack on him is he has zero offensive game and he can be overpowered. though i think he fits the big man role well, he will most probably be replaced.
who are the prime candidates?
- dwyane wade. although this team might not need him (lebron, melo & kobe is crowded enough), barring an injury, he will be on this team. he does bring defense and agressiveness on offense.
- chris bosh/elton brand/carlos boozer/shawn marion. one of these guys (or maybe two) will be inserted on the lineup for that added rebounding dominance and low-post presence inside (bosh/brand/boozer). marion is interesting because his style of play perfectly suits the run-and-gun tactics being employed by team usa.
- chris paul/gilbert arenas. chauncey surely didn’t work so they need another point guard. it’s either the play-making ability of chris paul or the defense and scoring of agent zero.
- shane battier/bruce bowen. they can replace teyshaun prince and act as the designated defensive stopper. both bowen & battier has better shooting than prince but prince can guard bigger guys. in any case, this team must have a defensive stopper.
yes, we are leaving out other more popular (and more talented) players (shaq, jermaine o’neal, ben wallace, kg, tim duncan (eeew π), t-mac, ray allen… etc) simply because they are not part of the pool assembled by usa basketball. plus this gives usa basketball a chance to use use the skewed logic mentioned above as an alibi and state that they did not field their best players in case they lose. π
bottom line, i always believe that in basketball, a team must play their game and not their opponent’s style. since team usa’s real strength is their athleticism, their style of play must showcase that (which they did at the fiba americas). they should continue to play man-to-man pressure defense (forget the zone defense please…) and use automatic switching on screens. push the ball hard and play open-court basketball. quick-passing on half-court offense leading to either an open 3 or an easy dunk. it’s that style of play more than the personnel that would lead team usa to victory.
anyway, let’s just see what happens on beijing next year. it will surely be fun to watch. π
ps if they can’t find another point guard, i suggest they use lebron as their point whenever kidd is on the bench then surround him with shooters and power dunkers. that would be fun. π
AYOS Dyoks!!! Kaya lang hindi ko magawa ngayon ang analysis ko sa mga sinulat mo eh. Pero I’ll be sending you my insights and opinions conserning this topic.
For now, OK na sa akin kung ang line-up magiging ganito:
Guard (#1): Kidd, Arenas
Guard (#2): Bryant, Redd, Wade
Forward (#3): James, Battier, Anthony
Forward (#4): Brand, Stoudamire
Center (#5): Howard, Bosh
PS: ayoko rin kay kobe pero kailangan talaga siya eh.
hey! my two best nba live buddies!
dyoks, galing talaga ng blog mo…very indepth!
august, i agree with your line up as well except for 2.
Arenas i would substitute for chris paul. arenas is, in my opinion, a scorer 1st, point guard 2nd. chris paul has had experience playing with the team(world championships) and would gel better.
the other would be battier for dirty bruce bowen. he can defend much bigger that his size as well as guard multiple positions…and when he’s lucky, hits big shots from beyond the arc(plus i use him alot in nba live…hehehe)
so having added my 2 cents, when’s our next ‘GAMETIME!!!’
KIDD: The βDO-IT-ALLβ type of player. When heβs playing, lahat nagiging scoring threat kasi kaya niya mag-create
ng opportunities both for himself and others. Dumadali ang basketball para sa US team, humihirap para sa mga kalaban.
Tumatanda na rin si Kidd kaya kailangan sulitin na ang serbisyo niya.
ARENAS: Remove Chauncey Billups (style unfit) and Deron Williams (overrated). Forget Chris Paul (bata pa naman eh).
Agent Zero has something to prove for himself and for US, sariwa pa sa isip niya ang pag-cut sa kanya last time.
And besides, he can also play the #2 guard as the designated shooter gaya ng role ni Redd. Heβs weapon: LONG RANGE SHOT (Miller area – where nobody MIGHT care to guard him and just allow him to shoot).
BRYANT: He may be known for his superb (pero overrated rin) offensive prowess pero heβs a REAL asset in defense.
Na-oovershadow lang talaga ng offense niya ang defensive abilities niya. 7-time NBA All-Defensive Team na kaya siya.
The whole world knows what Kobe can do. Do we still need to mention everything? I donβt think soβ¦
REDD: Isa ito sa mga underrated na mga players sa NBA. No. 5 in scoring last season among qualified players. No. 2 in 3PT FG% (next to Paul Pierce) among players who averaged 25ppg last season. Has improved tremendously after Ray Allen left Milwaukee. His playing style definitely suits the international brand of basketball. He has also proven his worth during the last FIBA Americas.
WADE: Versatile! He can play both the #1 and #2 spots. He can play both positions with ease. Although playing through injuries last season, he was still among the Top 5 scoring machines in the league. A consistent scoring threat. Sana lang ma-extend ang atleticism on defense.
GUARDS: Napaka-flexible ng backcourt, you can make several other combinations during the course of the game eh. Kidd and Arenas, Wade and Redd, Wade and Bryant and the usual ones. All combinations are fast and able. No other two-guard lineup from any nation can match. As quoted by Dyoks, they might wanna try James doing #1 or #2 also depending on the necessity.
to be continued…
keep the discussion going. i find it very interesting. π
gametime? eh ako na lang natira dito sa pinas eh. ya-yaman nyo na! π
β¦continuation
JAMES: Kailangan pa bang i-memorize iyan?!? If LBJ plays the same way he played during the FIBA Americas (75% FG%, 60% 3PT FG%), nobody in this planet can stop him. Titirahan lang niya ang maliliit na bantay. Sasagasaan ka niya using his speed and strength going to the basket. I canβt name someone from any nation who can guard this monster? Can you?
BATTIER: Many may disagree with me concerning this pick. I consider him as one of the most consistent in NBA. Prince may have a better offensive game pero theyβll be needing a defensive stopper lang naman eh. Gusto ko rin si Bowen (favorite ko nga ito eh) pero medyo mabagal na si Bowen when it comes to International brand of play.
ANTHONY: Sa totoo lang, thereβs nothing too special to mention for this guy. He just knows how to score and
when it is needed. Heβs a leader on and off the court (Trivia: He reminded James concerning their long-term commitment
to US Basketball just before the FIBA Americas commenced). Up-size version ni Iverson, napakarami ng offensive
weapons. Kung ikaw ang coach ng US, hindi mo ba siya kukunin? PS: hindi PF si Melo.
BRAND: Sana lang maka-recover sa recent injury niya. A consistent double-double performer. A much bigger version
of Sir Charles (pero mas maangas pa rin si Barkley). An inside-outside threat. An intimidating presence on defense (medyo underrated lang kahit pa consistent sa 2.5 bpg ang average).
STOUDAMIRE: After only 3 games the previous season due to surgery, he slams back to his usual monstrous mode and into the 2007 All NBA First Team. He may be playing #5 in Phoenix (wala namang ibang matino na sesentro sa Suns eh) pero palagay ko mas magiging effective siya kung #4 ang position niya sa US Team.
HOWARD: The only true center in this lineup. Rebounding is his forte. Although he has consistently improved his scoring average every year, rebounding and defensive presence niya talaga ang aasahan ng husto. There may be only a few (from the rest of the world) who can outmuscle him in his position. Nagpa-implant yata ng bato sa katawan ito eh.
BOSH: He can be the next KG. Although hindi pa perimeter threat sa ngayon pero has a decent inside-outside game.
Kaya niyang i-handle ang bola exceptionally sa size niya at marunong pumasa. Plays a decent defense too (shotblocker).
Consistently improved his game every year. Will probably get better again this coming season.
FORWARDS/CENTERS: Nilagay ko si Melo sa #3 kasi talaga namang hindi siya PF. He can play the PF position if they
want to run. Si Amare at si Bosh plays CF. Just like the backcourt, puwede ring laruin ang #4 and #5 combinations: they can play Howard and Bosh at the same time. Puwede ring Stoudamire and Brand. Para sa akin, iyong huling apat ang mga halimaw sa ilalim. Si Brand na siguro ang pinaka-finesse sa apat e.
very nice player-by-player analysis, august.
kung ako mag-co-coach ng team usa at yan ang lineup, i will absolutely have no problems with it. boto talaga ako kay brand… assuming na balik sya sa dati nyang laro. halimaw kasi talaga yun eh. ok din c bosh kaso naisip ko 1 sa 4 na bigs eh ma-ba-bangko (kung ako ang mag-co-coach ha. π). parang tayo lang dalawa ang may gus2 kay arenas. π toss-up pa din sa akin kung arenas or chris paul. pero, yun nga, kung ako mag-co-coach, c lbj ang gawin kong pt guard ng 2nd unit. π
pano lineup combinations pag yan ang team composition? will it be 2 bigs + 3 small always?
interesting discussion this has turned out to be. π
eto lang po ang masasabi ko…hehehe
jason kidd – no doubt that he is still the best point guard on the NBA… he is a natural pt guard.. wala syang pakialam kahit mababa ang score nya… mas improtante sa kanya ang ma involve ang mga ka teammates kaysa umiskor but still he can score if he want to..
lebron james – when he was pick as No.1 in the NBA, at first, sa tingin ko parang nagkamali ang cavs on their decision kasi I think wade and anthony is more explosive on that year.. but last NBA season and after this fiba qualification bumilib ako ng husto sa batang toh…hehehe he is unstoppable in no.2 and no.3 position….
kobe bryant – like dyoks i don’t like this guy.. but he’s talent, skill and leadership is needed in the US team.. he know how to score and to defend.. because of his eagerness to win most coaches like him to take the final shot if the game is on the line…
carmelo anthony – although he is not a natural power forward but he’s strength is enough to defend and stop the other teams.. nevertheless, is a good inside/outside player… (mahirap bantayan)
dwight howard – for his power, strength and age.. he is the best center on this team.. i watched fiba euro,oceana and asia.. no one from the qualified team could match his power… better yet his offense was improving also..
for the bench player…..
michael redd – he is the only natural shooter on this team and he is also good in executing fastbreak..
amare stoudemire – although he is small as center, he’s strength and versatility in the inside that proves that he should be on this team
elton brand – if he is fit to play next year, it is better to add this player.. he is a natural power forward and has a good touch on the outside
chris bosh – he can play no.2 and 3 spot.. although he is not to big on this position but he’s talent was enough
dwyane wade – he can play a back-up pt guard or back-up guard if they used LJ as their pt.. very versatile and explosive player (actually he’s one of my favorite…hehehe) inisip ko pa nga nun na dapat sya ang naging rookie year instead of LJ…:) remember that he is one of the co-captain of this team…
shawn marion – if jason kidd is playing as the pt.. i think matutuwa sya if marion is on his wings.. he is very good to excute long and short passes.
yung pang 12th player ko gusto ko isa pang shooter like redd pero wala na akong kilala kung nde si ray allen na lang….hehehe
pero sabi nga ni dyoks since wala sa pool so wag nang isama sa usapan.. but i want another shooter sana
yung mga dapat matanggal…..
chauncey billups – he’s not a natural pt. guard.. he likes to shot rather that to pass
mike miller – inconsistency
tysun prince – i think he’s skill is not for US team to play in the olympics
pwedeng i consider…
shane battier
jarmaine o’neal